Comments on: The Composite Service engine – The future role of BPEL – filling the niche between Enterprise Service Bus and BPM engine? https://technology.amis.nl/2008/10/24/the-composite-service-engine-the-future-role-of-bpel-filling-the-niche-between-enterprise-service-bus-and-bpm-engine/ Friends of Oracle and Java Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:54:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2 By: Thomas Eriksen https://technology.amis.nl/2008/10/24/the-composite-service-engine-the-future-role-of-bpel-filling-the-niche-between-enterprise-service-bus-and-bpm-engine/#comment-5567 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:52:17 +0000 http://technology.amis.nl/blog/?p=3759#comment-5567 Nice article and overview on Oracle BPM solutions. However, it is a bit confusing to mix up terms and product names. After all, BPM is mostly known as ‘Business Process Management’, not the Oracle product. Besides from this corny sidekick, i must say, that i miss the XPDL side of the process definition of Oracle BPM Studio. XPDL is used to define business processes, and this is a direct opponant to the BPEL language, as far as i know. I think it is a bit confusing, that BPEL PM uses the BPEL language and BPM Studio uses BPMN/XPDL, this may bring forth some problems when deploying processes on a common runtime engine, or am I missing something?

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By: Sander https://technology.amis.nl/2008/10/24/the-composite-service-engine-the-future-role-of-bpel-filling-the-niche-between-enterprise-service-bus-and-bpm-engine/#comment-5566 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:36:50 +0000 http://technology.amis.nl/blog/?p=3759#comment-5566 What I don’t understand is why Oracle bets on two horses that’s OSB and BPEL+ESB. I don’t see the difference between BPEL (+ESB) and OSB. You refer to the fact that OSB is not meant for very long running processes or carrying a lot of state. On what facts do you base this conclusion? Look forward to hearing from you.

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By: Jan https://technology.amis.nl/2008/10/24/the-composite-service-engine-the-future-role-of-bpel-filling-the-niche-between-enterprise-service-bus-and-bpm-engine/#comment-5565 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:37:50 +0000 http://technology.amis.nl/blog/?p=3759#comment-5565 Oracle should simply buy Tibco – innovation can always be bought. BPM is the new buzzword everybody (well not everybody of course) will be talking about, along with stuff like ‘governance’, MDM etc. Tibco’s BPM solution is the strongest offering out there, albeit a bit expensive. They’re ActiveMatrix technology is also something to check out. Be that as it may – I hope that prospects/customers, especially in our current economic climate, will be more willing to opt for free/Open Source offerings that let you create actual solutions against a fraction of the cost. You know me — at the end of the day, it’s the source code that matters :-)

Fozzie Bear

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