Comments on: Oracle Rules… the world?? Design and Run-time Rules Engine – also for PL/SQL? https://technology.amis.nl/2005/08/04/oracle-rules-the-world-design-and-run-time-rules-engine-also-for-plsql/ Friends of Oracle and Java Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:54:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2 By: Satish https://technology.amis.nl/2005/08/04/oracle-rules-the-world-design-and-run-time-rules-engine-also-for-plsql/#comment-2278 Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:18:06 +0000 /?p=692#comment-2278 Great Article, still valid today (2012 ) after 5 years of intial posting.
DROOLS is another open source tool thats greatly being employed nowadays.
 

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By: Surya https://technology.amis.nl/2005/08/04/oracle-rules-the-world-design-and-run-time-rules-engine-also-for-plsql/#comment-2277 Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:30:27 +0000 /?p=692#comment-2277 Can you give us a simple example of how to implement oracle business rules in a Oracle BPEL Process for a simple use case? Thank you.

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By: Lucas https://technology.amis.nl/2005/08/04/oracle-rules-the-world-design-and-run-time-rules-engine-also-for-plsql/#comment-2276 Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:23:07 +0000 /?p=692#comment-2276 Toon,

It is not my intention to use Oracle Rules for implementing the rules! That would be really far fetched, as my triggering event for rule validation would still be the table DML event (in the database) and a call out from there to Oracle Rules – while possible – is not good architecture for a lot of reasons.

What appeals to me though is the idea of using Oracle Rules for Analysis of the Data Oriented Business Rules. You know we have used Oracle Designer for this, but it is not ideal. Oracle Rules offers a browser based interfaces that can easily be made available to analists and functional designers. It is designed to support the process of rule analysis or at least specification. It is much better than anything else I know of right now.

My main questions right now are: is Oracle Rules – as design tool – too much geared towards Java (or at least OO) or can it be used in terms of Entities, Attributes and Relations AND/OR Tables, Columns and Foreign Keys. And: how easy can its API be used – to load table definitions from the Data Dictionary or entity definitions from an Oracle Designer Repository. Or for that matter: class definitions from an UML model (XMI document).

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By: Toon Koppelaars https://technology.amis.nl/2005/08/04/oracle-rules-the-world-design-and-run-time-rules-engine-also-for-plsql/#comment-2275 Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:24:03 +0000 /?p=692#comment-2275 You are enthusiastic as you always are. But using Oracle Rules as the vehicle to implement
data orriented rules… Hmmmm. As long as you don’t hold your breath, go ahead and try it.
I think you will eventually run into the “round pegs / square holes” syndrom again.
To me this is yet another product evangelizing to forget the relational database and make
the (java) container the centre of the universe.
Wrong vision…

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By: Sandor Nieuwenhuijs https://technology.amis.nl/2005/08/04/oracle-rules-the-world-design-and-run-time-rules-engine-also-for-plsql/#comment-2274 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:29:51 +0000 /?p=692#comment-2274 You don’t refer to this in you (excellent) article, but you should definitely also consider Oracle Rules (or any other rules engine) in combination with BPEL Process Manager. Using this combination you can execute a Rule at a specific step in the Business Process, thus making the process even more flexible and adapter to the business needs by externalizing the complex rules.

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By: Wilfred https://technology.amis.nl/2005/08/04/oracle-rules-the-world-design-and-run-time-rules-engine-also-for-plsql/#comment-2273 Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:26:49 +0000 /?p=692#comment-2273 Great article! I was wondering the exact same thing when I saw the (preview) release of Oracle Rules. Can this help us in enforcing the business rules we currently have implemented with triggers and CAPI’s (in a sort of Ruleframe look-a-like)?

Hoping to hear more from you when you get deeper into the details.

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