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	<title>Comments on: The Composite Service engine &#8211; The future role of BPEL &#8211; filling the niche between Enterprise Service Bus and BPM engine?</title>
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		<title>By: Thomas Eriksen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Eriksen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article and overview on Oracle BPM solutions. However, it is a bit confusing to mix up terms and product names. After all, BPM is mostly known as &#039;Business Process Management&#039;, not the Oracle product. Besides from this corny sidekick, i must say, that i miss the XPDL side of the process definition of Oracle BPM Studio. XPDL is used to define business processes, and this is a direct opponant to the BPEL language, as far as i know. I think it is a bit confusing, that BPEL PM uses the BPEL language and BPM Studio uses BPMN/XPDL, this may bring forth some problems when deploying processes on a common runtime engine, or am I missing something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article and overview on Oracle BPM solutions. However, it is a bit confusing to mix up terms and product names. After all, BPM is mostly known as &#8216;Business Process Management&#8217;, not the Oracle product. Besides from this corny sidekick, i must say, that i miss the XPDL side of the process definition of Oracle BPM Studio. XPDL is used to define business processes, and this is a direct opponant to the BPEL language, as far as i know. I think it is a bit confusing, that BPEL PM uses the BPEL language and BPM Studio uses BPMN/XPDL, this may bring forth some problems when deploying processes on a common runtime engine, or am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Sander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I don&#039;t understand is why Oracle bets on two horses that&#039;s OSB and BPEL+ESB. I don&#039;t see the difference between BPEL (+ESB) and OSB. You refer to the fact that OSB is not meant for very long running processes or carrying a lot of state. On what facts do you base this conclusion? Look forward to hearing from you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#8217;t understand is why Oracle bets on two horses that&#8217;s OSB and BPEL+ESB. I don&#8217;t see the difference between BPEL (+ESB) and OSB. You refer to the fact that OSB is not meant for very long running processes or carrying a lot of state. On what facts do you base this conclusion? Look forward to hearing from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://technology.amis.nl/2008/10/24/the-composite-service-engine-the-future-role-of-bpel-filling-the-niche-between-enterprise-service-bus-and-bpm-engine/#comment-5565</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oracle should simply buy Tibco - innovation can always be bought. BPM is the new buzzword everybody (well not everybody of course) will be talking about, along with stuff like &#039;governance&#039;, MDM etc. Tibco&#039;s BPM solution is the strongest offering out there, albeit a bit expensive. They&#039;re ActiveMatrix technology is also something to check out. Be that as it may - I hope that prospects/customers, especially in our current economic climate, will be more willing to opt for free/Open Source offerings that let you create actual solutions against a fraction of the cost. You know me --- at the end of the day, it&#039;s the source code that matters :-)

Fozzie Bear]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oracle should simply buy Tibco &#8211; innovation can always be bought. BPM is the new buzzword everybody (well not everybody of course) will be talking about, along with stuff like &#8216;governance&#8217;, MDM etc. Tibco&#8217;s BPM solution is the strongest offering out there, albeit a bit expensive. They&#8217;re ActiveMatrix technology is also something to check out. Be that as it may &#8211; I hope that prospects/customers, especially in our current economic climate, will be more willing to opt for free/Open Source offerings that let you create actual solutions against a fraction of the cost. You know me &#8212; at the end of the day, it&#8217;s the source code that matters <img src='http://technology.amis.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Fozzie Bear</p>
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