Comments on: SUSE support for next release of Oracle

By: Marco Gralike

Marco Gralike — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:41:01 +0000

Currently, Oracle is only supported on Linux versions of RedHat, Suse and Asianux. As long as this is the case, go with your prefered Linux distro (RedHat, Suse or Asianux). I guess that this will be for a long time (whatever what is happening on the Linux market). As long as Linux distro suppliers don’t crash on the Stock Market, there is no reason to change your planning…

By: o2se3tak

o2se3tak — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:53:11 +0000

Shouldn’t we abandon SUSE?

After the recent fiasco generated by Novell getting into an agreement with Microsoft and the whole Open Source Community planning to fight Novell both in and outside the court, will it be sensible to shift over to another Linux distribution? There are other distributions that are as good or better that SUSE so which will be best one to migrate to?

By: Marco Gralike

Marco Gralike — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:19:46 +0000

On behalf of Chan…

Hi Marco,

may be it a bit puzzled. I’m trying to note that the implementation of
Oracle Products(db, ias and etc) on Linux will getting more popular and easier.
More users will demand Oracle to run On Linux rather on the proprietary Unix.

Suse Linux at ASIA is not popular, but more peoples are getting to know it here.

By: Marco Gralike

Marco Gralike — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:11:44 +0000

Thanks Chan,

but I’m a little bit puzzled, what are your trying to say?

Grz

Marco

By: Keng Heng. Chan

Keng Heng. Chan — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:24:13 +0000

I’m from Malaysia, we have been implementing Oracle DB 8i-10gR2/IAS 9i-10gR2 on Suse. The installation process is getting easier and less troublesome for recently released Oracle products. I Suse will work closely with Oracle in future. More and more oracle had been implemented on Linux rather on proprietary Unix.

By: Marco Gralike

Marco Gralike — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:35:42 +0000

@Dimitri It should give it a swing, but historically spoken, Suse has its foundation in Europe (Germany), RedHat is most supported in the US. Maybe it will change, maybe it won’t. The competative edge between the two is at least good for the Oracle (prof.) community / linux community.

By: Marco Gralike

Marco Gralike — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:23:58 +0000

During those discussions, my opinion was that, if Oracle wanted to, they already had the means to do so (without bying Suse).

If you look at the functionality and/or the product line Oracle build up over the years (for instance content server, ASM) then there no real need (yet). IMHO the way to go will be probably SOA. If one would look at the core database (in this SOA perspective) then maybe the future will be that the "database" will disolve into the grid...(like a bittorent swarm of data). I thought that would be a too great leap to take, until I somewhere found artikel, with among others Ken Jacobs, where Mr B. Epstein (http://www.computerhistory.org/events/lectures/db_02102003/epstein/) described his vision which sounded a little bit like mine (to my utter surprise, by the way...)

I will try to find the artikel and post the link here.

Found it here: http://www.computerhistory.org/archive/CORE4.1.pdf

On page 27 a discussion is discribed under the description "How Databases changed the World" .

A panel (consisting of, among others, Mr. Epstein, Ken Jacobs, Chris Date) discussion is described where the following can be read...

Epstein predicted that databases will be used more and more as monitoring systems to process streaming data, where companies will be â€œpassing data through queries instead of passing queries through data.â€ Sippl said, â€œThere is a new revolution coming, not of the algebra of how to deal with tables of data, but how to deal with combinations of business processesâ€¦.Thereâ€™s going to be a simple, powerful model for doing thatâ€¦that will have as big an impact as the relational database did. Itâ€™s dealing with our processes, not just our data.â€ Edelstein concluded that there is and will continue to be a "vast increase in the scale of informationâ€ being processed, where great â€œcomplexities come from the nature of data and the rules associated with data.â€ We are going to â€œneed a way to deal with these complexitiesâ€¦.Someone [will surface who will] abstract these new complexities into a new paradigm.â€

The mentioned

pdf contains a lot of info about computer history and it is a good read.

By: Dimitri Gielis

Dimitri Gielis — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:19:29 +0000

Well, I just installed Oracle on SuSE 10 (but not the enterprise version) and it works great! (I posted it on my blog today)

Oracle uses mostly Redhat internally (I was told by an Oracle presales on a Redhat seminar )… Maybe after the JBoss story with RH they’ll put their focus on Novell…

By: Tim Hall

Tim Hall — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:46:57 +0000

Yes. The more support for Linux the better.

It seems likely that the next DB version will get certified pretty quickly also, since they seem keen to promote SUSE. There was speculation some time ago about an Oracle Linux distribution. Maybe they’ll buy SUSE.

Cheers

Tim…

By: Marco Gralike

Marco Gralike — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:25:47 +0000

Hmmm, good one.

I think you are right. Anyway, regarding SUSE, I guess this is still good news, Oracle’s app. flagship Oracle 11i Business Suite will be supported on SUSE’s latest server edition.