Comments on: JavaPolis 2005: what's hot and what's not?

By: Geert Bevin

Geert Bevin — Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:45:44 +0000

Hi Tom, thanks for the clarification. It’s confusing then that JDK 1.5 does handle it correctly. Since most of us we develop on 1.5 and use retroweaver to create the 1+4 version, this issue was very hard to track down.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:06:40 +0000

That wouldn’t be a JDK bug. That’s supposed to be a host name there. See RFC 1738:

http://www.w3.org/Addressing/rfc1738.txt

The default is localhost, so the correct prefix is “file:///” for every use case I’ve needed to worry about.

By: Geert Bevin

Geert Bevin — Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:57:56 +0000

Btw, don’t hesitate to ask me or the list questions if you’re in doubt of something. Certain features are quite different from what’s available in other frameworks and the advantages might not always be immediately clear if you’re looking at it with another mindset.

By: Geert Bevin

Geert Bevin — Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:11:08 +0000

Hi Rob,
thanks a lot for considering reviewing it in a separate post
The JavaPolis slides of the university are not available yet since it contained a lot of interspersed demo sessions. However, the presentation was created by assembling these materials:
http://rifers.org/theater/rifejumpstart_xdevelop
http://rifers.org/rife_indepth_simple_blog
http://rifers.org/theater/rifecrud_intro_tutorial
http://rifers.org/theater/web_continuations_presentation
http://rifers.org/theater/debugging_continuations

I should note that if you’re reviewing it on Windows, using JDK 1.4, and try these tutorials out, you will see a very long pause at startup. We actually cracked that last night and it’s caused by a bug in the JDK implementation where ‘file://c:/mypath/file/’ URLs try to use ‘c:’ as a hostname and it waits while resolving it. I’ll be releasing RIFE 1.3.1 later today with the fix.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts about our work.

Best regards,

Geert

By: Rob van Maris

Rob van Maris — Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:03:05 +0000

Oops, you’re right, thanks for pointing this out! Obviously I wasn’t able to attend every single session, so I missed Rife entirely. I should have mentioned it in my post though. I’ll make up for it and review Rife in a separate post. Perhaps you can send me some material from your presentation?

By: Geert Bevin

Geert Bevin — Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:09:41 +0000

Heh, I’m a bit shocked to see that you left out RIFE completely from the ‘battle of the web frameworks’. There has been a 2,5h university session, a quickie on web continuations and a 1h BOF on Monday. They all got great responses and people are very enthusiast:
http://rifers.org/blogs/gbevin/2005/12/20/rife_buzz_at_javapolis

Are you sure you’re covering the whole five days?