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By: AMIS Technology blog » Blog Archive » The Future of Oracle Applications - John Wookey at OOW 2006 Wed, 01 Nov 2006 00:32:22 +0000 /?p=169#comment-790 [...] One of the keynote speakers during last week’s Oracle Open World Conference van John Wookey, Senior Vice President for Oracle Applications. John is sort of an old acquaintance, as two years ago I did an interview with him on dogfood (see: Eating your own dogfood – use of Oracle Development tools within the Oracle Applications development group ). Note: at that time, PeopleSoft, JD Edwards, Siebel and Retek were all competitors, no mergers on the horizon – or so I thought. And we discussed technology, of which I thought Wookey knew surprisingly much!This keynote was a different story altogether. In front of a close to 10.000 person audience, aided by two roaring Italian motor-engines ("they are from Ducati, one of our customers, an Italian motor-cycle constructor; we also would have liked to invite Boeing…"), John spoke strategy. Strategy for Oracle Applications, not just the E-Business Suite, or Fusion Apps, but all product lines. And as the buses in San Francisco cried out all over the city: Unlimited Applications. I was at first, I’ll freely admit, a little skeptical about Unlimited Applications – Oracle’s promise to provide unlimited support for all product lines – EBS, Siebel, Retek, JD Edwards, and PeopleSoft. However, I know not only believe they will actually do this, I can even see the sense of it.Oracle announced Oracle E-Business Suite R12 – and indicated that there will be an R13 further down the road. It also announced a new release of JD Edwards World (A9.1) on IBM I-series – the first new release of JDE since 1998 on that platform! Wookey also outlines the roadmap for Siebel – R8.0, 8.1 , 8.2 – and PeopleSoft – EE9, 9.1, 9.x. [...]

By: AMIS Technology blog » Blog Archive » Session on XML Publisher - The Successor to Oracle Reports? Sun, 02 Apr 2006 07:53:14 +0000 /?p=169#comment-789 [...] Last week, my colleague Marcos guided us through the still relatively new Oracle offering called XML Publisher. During a session of our Knowledge Center on Oracle Development Tools, we saw XML Publisher in action and used it ourselves. We also had quite a bit of discussion, whether XML Publisher will replace Oracle Reports and to what extent it may be used with Java/J2EE powered projects. We concluded that functionality wise XML Publisher is ready to take over from Oracle Reports. However, the current licensing policy as we understand it is rather prohibitive – $40K per processor, $30k if you’ve already licensed Application Server – or $40 per employee (not end user) which, depending on the actual conditions, could prove interesting.XML Publisher first came to my attention during Oracle World, Fall 2004. I wrote about it in the article Eating your own dogfood – use of Oracle Development tools within the Oracle Applications development group – Reporting: birth of a new tool: XML Publisher, an interview with John Wookey during Oracle World 2004 in Amsterdam. It is created initially to facilitate all those customers of the Oracle E-Business Suite that require reports based on data within the Oracle E-Business Suite and with customized layout. Oracle was facing more and more customers using the standard shipped reports and requiring specialized layout for those reports, often because of local regulations. Oracle realized it would not be possible to ship all those customized layouts as part of the core product, so XML Publisher was developed to allow customers to create their own report layouts based on standard (or even custom) data sources. The initial intention was to use all the curent reports in the E-Business Suite as Data Sources – RDFs ran with XML as output format – for the newly developed XML Publisher templates. It now seems that Oracle has a RDF2RTF processor – a tool that takes Oracle Report Definitions and converts them to XML Publisher style templates. However, this tool is not yet available external to Oracle, although that does seem to be the plan.More details on XML Publisher can be found among other resources in this article by Mark Rittman: A First Look At XML Publisher , More on XML Publisher and Wrapping up on XML Publisher . XML Publisher can be downloaded from Oracle MetaLink. Report-templates for XML Publisher are in fact RTF documents that are created using a Word plug-in. (According to Mark, there will be a plugin for Excel shortly. ) You can create the layout of the report using the full power of MS Word – quite handy compared to Oracle Reports Builder and much more convenient for end users. Including images, tables, indexes and other more interesting layout options is as effortless as with normal documents.The plugin part is used when the dynamic data elements are introduced into the template. Marcos demonstrated how you can first link the current template to an XML Data Source – which can be an XML Document on the file system or the internet or an SQL Query (also see More on XML Publisher). In the template itself, we can include elements from that XML source (internally specified through XPath expressions that we can though not need to edit), just by picking them in a wizard. We have the full range of XPath/XSLT expressions at our disposal, allowing us to manipulate the contents from the XML source before displaying it in the report. Note that here we will lose the end user and require a real developer or someone trained for day-to-day administration of the application. Marcos demonstrated how simple it is to create iterations – loops over sets of records that are typically displayed in tables or bullet lists in the report output. He also showed us how references to images can be dynamic: that this the URL for the image can be constructed while generating the report output from the values found in the XML source.We can preview the Report from the template at any time; the preview is available in PDF, HTML and Excel format. The data in the preview is the data from the XML Data Source we have attached to our template editing session.The XML Publisher plugin allows us to export the template definition in several formats, including XSL-FO and XSLT. The latter is an XSLT stylesheet that contains an awful lot of XSL-FO elements, embedded in an XSLT stylesheet. Taking this stylesheet, we can take an XML source and transform it to XSL-FO output – using any XSLT transformation engine, like Apache Xalan, Saxon or Oracle XDK. The XSL-FO document can be edited in one of several XSL-FO editors or rendered – more likely – using render engines like Apache FOP, to output formats like PDF, PS, SVG or RTF. Of course these functions are normally exectued by the XML Publisher Server, but it can be interesting to use the XSL-T created with the XML Publisher plugin for Word in more customized ways. Note that Report definitions are stored by the XML Publisher plugin as an XDO file along with an RTF document. This XDO file is a custom XML format, that describes the XML Data Source to be used when the report is executed.XML Publisher is based primarily on XML, XSL-FO (FO= Formatting Objects) and XSL-T (T=Transformations). It can render output in various formats, including HTML, PDF, RTF (Rich Text Format) and Excel (although currently the Excel output is basically just HTML output interpreted by Excel). The approach taken with XML Publisher as demonstrated by Marcos is very much like a PostScript/PDF Document Generator AMIS developed almost three years ago for one of our customers: we used HTML to define the Report template instead of RTF, had a less elegant way of injecting references to dynamic data elements and could not handle record sets. However, the basic approach using a template developed in Word by end-users, using a XSL-T stylesheet brimming with XSL-FO elements to transform XML datasets was there to, as was the rendering in PDF from XSL-FO. Well, in hindsight it sounds like the obvious approach, so of course there are many similarities.All in all, this session provided a very useful overview of where XML Publisher currently is, how it can be used and what the internals are. [...]

By: Lucas Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:03:45 +0000 /?p=169#comment-788 Today I heard that John Wookey now has overall lead for all of Oracle Apps. Mr. Ron Wohl, previously his boss, apparently is away on sabbatical leave. In hindsight, I have come close to the sun….

By: Lucas Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:46:24 +0000 /?p=169#comment-786 See post about this article on Gengmao’s Little Niche

By: Lucas Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:16:05 +0000 /?p=169#comment-785 See post on this article on The Future of Forms – Eat Your Own Dog Food December 22, 2004 John Garmany (Burleson Consulting)

By: Max D. Sun, 26 Dec 2004 22:45:04 +0000 /?p=169#comment-784 Great informational article…more of this
all for now.

By: Lucas Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:58:13 +0000 /?p=169#comment-783 (For reference, see this post on

… não tem espeto de pau!!

Veja como a Oracle utiliza os frameworks de desenvolvimento Java em seus próprios produtos para o mercado de Aplicações Corporativas altamente transacionais – o eBusiness Suite.

By: tech jobs computer jobs Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:49:52 +0000 /?p=169#comment-782 when will the next version of oracle apps be made available.. v11 has been out for some time.

By: Chris Bell Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:33:51 +0000 /?p=169#comment-781 Very interesting article… It’s amusing that Oracle have been stressing for years that
Forms will remain part of the development toolset in Apps.. I guess it boils down to there
not being a viable alternative until ADF and JSF.

I’ve been using ADF/UIX on and off since it first came out and it’s interesting to see
it being used in anger now. If it’s implemented well and allows for Pluggable L&F then
it really will allow clients to develope a corporate look and feel throughout their ERP
and Back Office as well as using Portal etc….

If this doesn’t occur, then Oracle will lose out signifcantly to Axapta, where integration
with the desktop will be seamless (aparently)

What will really blow the doors off proper Apps customisation and integration is when
OC4j becomes the host for the applications tier… Bring it on!


By: Brian Duff Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:57:48 +0000 /?p=169#comment-780 We can but hope that Oracle SCM will come back in some form one day. At the moment, things don’t look good. Two of the three pro-OSCM Oracle employees you mention are no longer with the company, and the remaining members of the Oracle SCM team are focussed on internal Apps support only. The existing version of Oracle SCM is still fully supported, of course.

The day that new development on Oracle SCM stopped coincided with Microsoft’s announcement about their new “Team System” replacement for Visual SourceSafe. I’m pretty sure it was a coincidence, but it served to highlight that development lifecycle support is still a really important competetive area. I thought that future releases of Oracle SCM would be the basis of a strong Oracle offering in this area (some of the stuff that was being developed internally was very cool: integrated bug tracking, task tracking and version control). Oracle SCM also had a great selling point that you mention: it’s used by Oracle to version control the huge amount of code that comprises the Oracle database.

There are a number of fundamental architecture issues with Oracle SCM 6i/9i that were, for the most part, resolved in the “7.x” releases that we use internally. IMHO, part of the problem with Oracle SCM was a failure to release a “7.x” version externally. For a long time, the team were focussed on providing a hosted version control solution (a bit like SourceCast) that never really took off. In the meantime, a lot of customers started using 6i/9i and because most of the development effort was on “7.x”, customers were not seeing a lot of improvement in the 6i/9i code base.

It seems that now, the strategy is to support existing Oracle SCM customers fully, but concentrate new functionality (in JDeveloper) around third party version control systems like CVS and Subversion. The rapid change in direction was a bit of a surprise to many (myself included: I was responsible for the Oracle SCM integration in JDeveloper, so it had a bit of an impact on my priorities).

By: Lucas Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:29:21 +0000 /?p=169#comment-779 See response from Steve Muench in his weblog

Also interesting: an interview by Tim Anderson with Ted Farell (Architect and Director, Application Development Tools Division, Oracle Corporation). Ted Farell sais – among many other things -: “We do have solutions today. One of our consulting departments has built a product called JHeadStart, and that will allow you to draw a business flow diagram and it will generate a Java application for you. ”

What he says about the next release of JDeveloper (10gR2 I believe, due in November or so) is encouraging:

Tim: What about refactoring and pattern-based tools in JDeveloper?
Ted: In the next version which you should see sometime this year, the JDeveloper IDE has full-blown refactoring.[...] In the next version of JDeveloper we have pretty much all those features that you find in Eclipse or IntelliJ. We’ve focused back on the core developer, whereas in the 10g release the main focus was getting ADF integrated, and to target the high level business developer. We’re now shifting resources back onto the core developer as well. So there are two paths that we take, the ADF enhanced mode, and the pure “just give me an IDE� type of developer.

By: Lucas Jellema Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:41:18 +0000 /?p=169#comment-778 Brian: if Oracle SCM (or at least an enhanced version of it) is used by such critical and humongous environments such as Oracle ST and Oracle Apps, would not such a product be a much sought after tool for the rest of the world? At some point I believe msrs. Fisher, Bradshaw and Thomas were ready to take on the world (primarily ClearCase) for doing SCM at the Enterprise Level. Do you what happened? Is there any chance of a ‘return with a vengeance’ of SCM at Oracle?